This is an example to illustrate what you'll see on widescan and *where* to look for VE and his placeholders. Thread Leech ] Snipper ] Damslefly ] Snipper ] Thread Leech ] Snipper ] Snipper ] <--- This stuff looks like a bunch of random crap Hill Lizard ] because it is. VE and his placeholders will Brutal Sheep ] *NEVER* spawn here. Goblin Ambusher ] Beach Pugil ] Brutal Sheep ] Brutal Sheep ] Snipper ] Beach Pugil ] .... Snipper ] Snipper ] Snipper ] Snipper ] <--- Somewhere down near the middle, you will see Snipper ] this big stretch of Snippers... Snipper ] Snipper ] Snipper ] Snipper ] Snipper ] Snipper ] Damslefly ] Damslefly ] <--- AHA! We have found the 4 placeholders for VE! Damslefly ] This is where we focus all our efforts, and Damslefly ] this is where VE will spawn! Thread Leech ] Thread Leech ] Thread Leech ] Thread Leech ] Thread Leech ] <--- The 4 VE placeholders will be just before Thread Leech ] the Thread Leech chunk. The snipper chunk Thread Leech ] and Thread Leech chunk blanket the 4 Thread Leech ] placeholders Thread Leech ] ...... Snipper ] Thread Leech ] Snipper ] Snipper ] <--- This stuff looks like a bunch of random crap Hill Lizard ] because it is. VE and his placeholders will Brutal Sheep ] *NEVER* spawn here. Goblin Ambusher ] If you get here, you know you've gone too Goblin Ambusher ] far. (BTW, I know I've exaggerated this a bit. I know the stretch of Snippers and Leeches isn't quite this long. Also, I forget what other patterns there were outside of the placeholders, so I just made it all random-ish. That's okay, because I think this illustrates enough of what you're looking for- Sam)